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    non-stretch Aventador

    As some of you know, the whole safety issue with stretched cars has me spooked. So i have been looking in to a non-stretch option on something a little newer then the Fiero.

    The obvious choice is the generation 4 Camaro. On top of not needing to be stretched, it's a front engine which means you have a good size trunk.

    Now, kitcarinc.com came up with something like this (Mercy 4), but as Rob put it, "it looks like a Lamborghini with a big pregnant front end." not to mention ugly and out of spec in very obvious ways.

    I found a picture online that compares the Mercy 4 to the real thing. I uploaded it to a free image host out of respect for the sight's bandwidth.

    http://s17.postimage.org/cvh4r3mx9/m..._Real_Car2.jpg

    So my new plan is to basically do the same thing but with better quality obviously and with a more carefully thought out rescaling and relocating to make it's differences from the real Aventador less obvious and maybe even unnoticeable without sitting next to the real thing and still attractive where noticeable, and all with the least possible modification to the original vehicle. Enlarging the wheel wells and lowering the side window opening for instance makes the "larger front end" much less obvious. Slanting the windshield just a tiny bit also helps.

    I'm still working on it and will be probably until actual construction is complete. I did get a start recently by doing some research on the Camaro, what I can and can't get away with and came up with the following photo shopped image.

    Before you look at it, note that this platform shouldn't require any mods to the uni-body, will require changing of lights but to a similar displacement and will probably use all the same glass as the original car and only glass needed to go out and buy would be for the flaps or vents over the trunk (engine on the real car.

    http://s18.postimage.org/btdfl7t7b/image.jpg

    Another thing is this might cost but a fraction of what a Fiero build will cost. Since no one makes a shell, you have to make it yourself. It's going to take time but be a savings of $2000 to $3000. Then get rid of all the axle and suspension mods (another $1500 to $2000), no need for the stretch kit ($700) and so on. Perhaps an option for those of us on a very tight budget and/or concerned about safety.

    Anyway, it's a start.

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    I dont think blacking out the wheel arches (or a limited wheel well enlargement) is going to make the car look much slicker, specially if you make the car like a replica, it could look silly in my opinion.


    Here is my custom Camaro idea if you'd like to do it.
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    I don't understand the safety concerns with the stretch. If done properly, a stretch will actually be stronger than OEM, and if you're still worried, add some steel bracing, and you're good to go.

    The 4th Gen Camaro is a BIG car. While I like the LS1 in there right out of the box, I wouldn't call it the obvious or best choice for this one. The door glass has a weird angle in it to go around some trim at the B pillar that will always be visible. Plus, the doors themselves are big and heavy, and if you're worried about safety and budget, I wouldn't use anything but a factory crash tested door, that already opens and closes and has the correct door seal.
    Personally, I'd stretch the Fiero, but it you're really adamant against it, Id look for a smaller donor. Cougar? Celica? Mitsubishi Eclipse?

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    ArashB - what software are you using to make these images? do you have a source for stock models of these cars?

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    Google warehouse, linked below, has a great number of cars, I open them in Sketchup to modify and use Deep Exploration to render. Deep Ex is also very useful to reduce (optimize feature) the model size so one can easily mod it in Sketchup with an average powered computer.


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    http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/ge...3d-models.html
    ^updated download links in sourced website
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    Anything is achievable with enough money (: What is your exact budget?

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    Here is a model fuse


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    Quote Originally Posted by RHK View Post
    Id look for a smaller donor. Cougar? Celica? Mitsubishi Eclipse?
    I own a 4th gen and that car is poorly made as is you'd have to modify to much in order to make it work out and in the end it probably still wouldn't look right. Id go with a 3rd gen eclipse honestly or a celica if I was going to build an Aventador.

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    I would personally hate to own a mid engine replica with a front engine donor.

    Porsche Boxster's are becoming pretty cheap, still costly in parts but its wider then a MR2... but again the MR2 has a more slanted windshield.

    Porsche_Boxster Width 70.1 in (1,781 mm)
    Toyota_MR2 Width 66.7 in

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    Nice job as always Arash.

    Obviously the Camaro and Firebird have very high strut towers in front and back that makes them look chubby plus the high dash but I still think a nice looking car could be made from them. Just not a very accurate looking Lambo.

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