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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2009, 06:50:00 PM » |
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It really is easy to import a kit.
Tuuugh.... Tell that to Canadian Customs...
Its dam near impossible to import a kit ... we need a list of Canadian Kit Makers so we can buy local. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 10:35:21 PM » |
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Transport Canada told me you can have a kit car in Canada as long as it was built in Canada. That was back on 06 when I talked to them. Unless now you can't even build one in Canada?
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 10:35:21 PM » |
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2009, 03:58:18 PM » |
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Hello every bodey im new here,I am from Croatia.I am plan in to build some replica over one year.But the broblem is shopping that kit.well,can some one tell me where I can buy thet kit close the Crotia in Europe(maybe Germany,Italy,Hungary...)  ,And internet adress.Thanks a lot  |
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 09:27:15 AM » |
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Check out the other thread re "finalizing..." in Recent Posts, that will give you some hints on the difficulties you face. Personally, I think that Transport Canada imported their regulatory system from Croatia, or some other equally restrictive regime...
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2009, 10:32:11 AM » |
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It really is easy to import a kit.
Tuuugh.... Tell that to Canadian Customs...
Its dam near impossible to import a kit ... we need a list of Canadian Kit Makers so we can buy local. which kit are you looking for? |
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 01:18:25 PM » |
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For me ideally having a reliable supply of chassis and bodies so that I can supply assembled turnkeys is of more interest... body style not an issue right now.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2009, 08:11:45 PM » |
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Now, take that to Transport Canada and see what reaction you get; I can give you a hint. A gent in Nanaimo was doing exactly that, using imported bodies, and building his own chassis. TC showed up, said quit that: you can build and sell all of these, but none of them are legal for the road until you follow the same rules as GM. Send us 3 identical cars (at your cost) and a blank cheque for what is costs us to test them to destruction. If they DO pass the crash tests, and all the other regulations we have here (the book is nearly a foot thick), we will send you the remains (at your cost) with a report on the results. However, if you change ONE ITEM on your production line, then you must repeat the process. Faced with such expenses, clearly the guy quit. Apparently, one can build and sell the cars, but only for track use, never for road use.
I learned from him, and a guy in Victoria who was producing 32 Ford roadsters, and decided that TC was out to destroy the kit building industry, which is why it doesn't exist today. It is clear to me that the high-level bureaucracy was simply bought and paid for by GM, Ford and Chrysler. We have no chance, as far as I can see, and unless you are willing to gamble at ton of money on this, I don't think you have a chance either. If, through some wild fluke, you are willing to go into production, I assure you there will be no shortage of qualified chassis and body builders ready to supply you with all you need!
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2009, 05:56:40 AM » |
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2009, 09:07:46 PM » |
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So your saying if a guy has a complete kit car he wants to sell in Canada, if you buy it you can never drive it on the street?? Even though it was built in Canada? The rules must have changed then because I know back in 04 I talked to TC and the guy told me as long as the car came from Canada and was built in Canada there was no problem. If it came from the US then your screwed.
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2009, 05:38:08 AM » |
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So your saying if a guy has a complete kit car he wants to sell in Canada, if you buy it you can never drive it on the street?? Even though it was built in Canada? The rules must have changed then because I know back in 04 I talked to TC and the guy told me as long as the car came from Canada and was built in Canada there was no problem. If it came from the US then your screwed.
If you build the complete car from scratch by yourself FOR YOURSELF you can have a kit car... you can even sell it BUT technically the guy buying it did NOT BUILD IT FOR HIM/HER SELF so uses it OFF the street. And if YOU build a second one and sell it then YOU and ALL THE BUYERS are in trouble. Thats getting very legal but thats the way the guidelines are written. |
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2009, 07:08:00 AM » |
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There is a turnkey Diablo out in Alberta that North American built a few years ago. The guy has been selling it for a while. So, if I were to buy it, could I drive the thing on the streets? Or how would I get around this?
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2009, 09:07:57 AM » |
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Gee, Hawk, let me put it this way: how much are you willing to gamble? Odds at Vegas are about the same as those with TC. Some guys have been able to go through just fine, others never get on the road. Apparently it has to do with jurisdiction more than anything else; the feds see things one way, and the Provinces (remember here that each Province has their own regulations and interpretations) see things another.
In BC, usually the first thing the Provincial inspector looks for is the Federal seal... usually. Miss that part, then it just becomes another simple inspection. If the guy has nothing else to do, the $66 inspection gets into drilling holes in the chassis (!) and all that other invasive stuff. Strictly a game of Blackjack, deal the cards and hope. Then some guys play hardball by showing up with a lawyer in tow: not only does the inspector start to shake, but the Provincial guys back off as well. No one wants to devote their workday to a courtroom...
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2010, 05:38:42 AM » |
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In Australia if I import a kit I first have to apply for permission to import from the department of infrastructure for a VIA (valid Importation assessment) witch you must have before you import to obtain road rego Allmost anything can come in BUT engineers certificates must be obtained for all structural components eg: Chassis suspension plus brakes etc etc.
And as for our costs for importing If say I buy a kit for $10,000 I would first pay for import say about $1,500 then on that total $11,500
I pay 10% customs Duty $1,150 total $12,650
Then on that figure I have to pay another 10% GST $1,265 total $13,915
Then quarantine fees need to be payed $???
THATS ABOUT 40% TOTAL ON TOP OF THE KIT
I'm so happy Australia is part of the FREE TRADE agreement.
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2010, 06:11:01 AM » |
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In Australia if I import a kit I first have to apply for permission to import from the department of infrastructure for a VIA (valid Importation assessment) witch you must have before you import to obtain road rego Allmost anything can come in BUT engineers certificates must be obtained for all structural components eg: Chassis suspension plus brakes etc etc.
And as for our costs for importing If say I buy a kit for $10,000 I would first pay for import say about $1,500 then on that total $11,500
I pay 10% customs Duty $1,150 total $12,650
Then on that figure I have to pay another 10% GST $1,265 total $13,915
Then quarantine fees need to be payed $???
THATS ABOUT 40% TOTAL ON TOP OF THE KIT
I'm so happy Australia is part of the FREE TRADE agreement.
I Love FREE TRADE the problem is I just can not afford it !!! |
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