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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2010, 11:42:09 PM » |
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Ever consider building the suspension components?
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2010, 11:47:24 PM » |
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Ever consider building the suspension components?
Already on my fixture. Just need more time with the C5 stuff. I have two builds to finish by March and one in April and two new ones start in June. Only if I was blessed with 30 hours a day and 8 days a week... |
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2010, 11:52:37 PM » |
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Ever consider building the suspension components?
Already on my fixture. Just need more time with the C5 stuff. I have two builds to finish by March and one in April and two new ones start in June. Only if I was blessed with 30 hours a day and 8 days a week... Will stay tuned! I'd love to go with a chassis like yours or Cliffs...both are eye candy. For someone who can afford the hard work I do think these are a step way above some shoddy Fiero hack job stretch. If I do have to stretch a Fiero for budget reasons though I'll try and make it the best I can for what it is i guess and see how that works out. I just started building my own go cart frames out of tube with a JD2 bender...its tough man..wow |
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2010, 11:56:32 PM » |
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Ever consider building the suspension components?
Already on my fixture. Just need more time with the C5 stuff. I have two builds to finish by March and one in April and two new ones start in June. Only if I was blessed with 30 hours a day and 8 days a week... Will stay tuned! I'd love to go with a chassis like yours or Cliffs...both are eye candy. For someone who can afford the hard work I do think these are a step way above some shoddy Fiero hack job stretch. If I do have to stretch a Fiero for budget reasons though I'll try and make it the best I can for what it is i guess and see how that works out. I just started building my own go cart frames out of tube with a JD2 bender...its tough man..wow If you need help with the Fiero, let me know. I re-frame the whole car and end up weighing over 400lbs less then the stock Fiero. I build the whole frame off the car on my Fixture and then puzzle it together. I can show you step by step if you like. Look at one of my Clients build diaries for PICS  |
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2010, 11:59:24 PM » |
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Ever consider building the suspension components?
Already on my fixture. Just need more time with the C5 stuff. I have two builds to finish by March and one in April and two new ones start in June. Only if I was blessed with 30 hours a day and 8 days a week... Will stay tuned! I'd love to go with a chassis like yours or Cliffs...both are eye candy. For someone who can afford the hard work I do think these are a step way above some shoddy Fiero hack job stretch. If I do have to stretch a Fiero for budget reasons though I'll try and make it the best I can for what it is i guess and see how that works out. I just started building my own go cart frames out of tube with a JD2 bender...its tough man..wow If you need help with the Fiero, let me know. I re-frame the whole car and end up weighing over 400lbs less then the stock Fiero. I build the whole frame off the car on my Fixture and then puzzle it together. I can show you step by step if you like. Look at one of my Clients build diaries for PICS Will do...i know IE does some of the best Fiero work around..it makes me sick..lol  That's a compliment haha |
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2010, 12:03:29 AM » |
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Ever consider building the suspension components?
Already on my fixture. Just need more time with the C5 stuff. I have two builds to finish by March and one in April and two new ones start in June. Only if I was blessed with 30 hours a day and 8 days a week... Will stay tuned! I'd love to go with a chassis like yours or Cliffs...both are eye candy. For someone who can afford the hard work I do think these are a step way above some shoddy Fiero hack job stretch. If I do have to stretch a Fiero for budget reasons though I'll try and make it the best I can for what it is i guess and see how that works out. I just started building my own go cart frames out of tube with a JD2 bender...its tough man..wow If you need help with the Fiero, let me know. I re-frame the whole car and end up weighing over 400lbs less then the stock Fiero. I build the whole frame off the car on my Fixture and then puzzle it together. I can show you step by step if you like. Look at one of my Clients build diaries for PICS Will do...i know IE does some of the best Fiero work around..it makes me sick..lol That's a compliment haha Thanks, I truly do try my best |
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2010, 03:19:44 PM » |
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i have seen the frame in person and can verify it will be a nice,well thought out piece. joe also does some of the best fiero frame work I've seen.
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2010, 12:06:11 PM » |
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WOW looking good so far. I think its time to move forward and away from using stretched fiero's. It is a thing of the pass and we need to think more about safety. What would make this even better is if you can get the chassis DOT approved and make it easy to registered. Than I think people would be more willing even if they think it is a little out of there price range.
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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2010, 01:32:23 PM » |
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Shame there is not more of this type of high end work in the industry. Stick to your guns Joe, looks great.
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2010, 05:41:41 PM » |
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i get my chassis in the state of north carolina registered as a custom car, but that varies state to to state. inland you may want to check out your local dmv and see what they say.
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2010, 10:28:31 PM » |
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WOW looking good so far. I think its time to move forward and away from using stretched fiero's. It is a thing of the pass and we need to think more about safety. What would make this even better is if you can get the chassis DOT approved and make it easy to registered. Than I think people would be more willing even if they think it is a little out of there price range.
it doesnt need dot/dmv because its still considered a fiero. it retains the fiero vin #. thats one of the reasons people retain the fiero tub. |
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2010, 10:44:31 PM » |
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Getting the chassis DOT approved is the only way to go. Otherwise, obtaining insurance on the car could be quite tricky. Put yourself in the insurance companies shoes for a minute. In their eyes, the car needs to be roadworthy and safe to be insurable. Anybody can throw together a chassis for their build, but is it safe? Not only for the driver and passengers, but other drivers on the road. DOT certification assures the insurance companies that the car meets front, side, and rear impact standards for the year produced. Also, that the car in not going to fall apart on the road causing a hazzard for others. DOT and other certifications are a long and drawn out process, and very expensive. Better safe than sorry though. It is entirely possible for someone to sue the manufacturer of a chassis if they can can prove that the chassis design was the reason for their accident and bodily harm sustained. Without a DOT approval on the chassis, its a slam-dunk case for the prosecution. It would not only be a case of John Doe versus the Chassis Builder, but also "The state of____" versus the Chassis builder.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2010, 11:06:54 AM » |
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Well said MM. I for one would prefer getting it DOT approve. It give me assurance that the car won't fall apart if I get in an accident.
Twilight Z Your correct but when you try to get insurance on it, and registering it, that is the problem. car has a fiero vin# and the insurance work pay out the money invested in it.They will pay for a fiero. It is to much of a hassle. I've spoken to a few insurance company and a state ref. about it. You will lose money either way if you go that route. (This is what I found out. but I could have gotting bad information. If anyone has experienced with a kitcar claim, it would be great to here your input.)
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2010, 03:53:24 PM » |
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Well said MM. I for one would prefer getting it DOT approve. It give me assurance that the car won't fall apart if I get in an accident.
Twilight Z Your correct but when you try to get insurance on it, and registering it, that is the problem. car has a fiero vin# and the insurance work pay out the money invested in it.They will pay for a fiero. It is to much of a hassle. I've spoken to a few insurance company and a state ref. about it. You will lose money either way if you go that route. (This is what I found out. but I could have gotting bad information. If anyone has experienced with a kitcar claim, it would be great to here your input.)
safety is paramount and dot is good if you feel the need.it is not mandatory(in this scenario) for registration and insurance is the point im making. all you do is insure it at a stated value and you will be able to recoup your losses if it comes to that. i do it on custom cars all the time. my z was insured for $60k because thats how much it would cost to rebuild if i totaled it. that is a higher value than a stock z so the insurance company charged me accordingly. |
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2010, 04:10:18 PM » |
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There is a reason most insurance companies wont insure a kit-car, even if it has a Fiero VIN. There is no way to estimate the damage correctly, even based on shop rates for repairs. How much is it for a new fiberglass LP640 replica bumper, and where do you get it? How much will it cost to get that crumpled tube chassis fixed, and why did it fail in the first place?
These are all custom built cars. There are no redilly available replacement parts available for them, and no reference to the prices. Insurance companies cant send an adjuster out to look at the car and have him bid the repairs accurately. Its just a headache for the insurance companies, and they dont want to deal with it. Could you imagine if you lost control of your car and hit somebody? You better hope they dont find out your car was a kit, or unless you can prove it roadworthy with a DOT certification number, they will own you. Just because you can register your car in your state, you're not out of the woods. The DMV only cares about collecting fee's on your car, not if its safe. It is your reponsibility as the driver of the car to have everything in place, all approvals, registrations, insurance, etc. Unless you've got REALLY deep pockets, you better be shure ALL your ducks are in a row.
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