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    Don
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    Must be a torque correction thing. The work looks great. Looking forward to more updates.

    Cheers
    Don

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  • C5GTO
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    Originally posted by 275NART View Post
    New toy. For $300 w/ the anvils what's there to really lose.

    275NART: I'm glad to see you're taking action on the metal shaping front! Before I built my Ewheel, I purchased an Ewheel that looked just like this. Not to be a downer, but I returned it prior to even using it. Maybe the one you purchased will be better but here's a tip. Check the runout (i.e. roundness) on the anvils. If they're not perfectly circular (they have .001 or more runout) then you most likely won't get acceptable results no matter what you do. The anvils on the Ewheel I returned weren't even close. Given you're new to metal shaping and if you're like me, you'll likely think it's you and not the equipment. With these cheap, Chinese made Ewheels, it's really a crap shoot.

    The other thing you'll find from this Ewheel is the frame will flex in both vertical and horizontal directions. The tubing size is not large enough to prevent this. You can overcome this shortcoming by welding on support bracing. But if the anvils aren't round then strengthening the frame won't matter, it will actually make it worse because now the frame won't flex for the anvil high side and it will result in uneven thinning in the metal you're shaping. But if the anvils are round, you should be able to at least get feel for metal shaping, then you can elect to either invest in making this frame stronger or get a better Ewheel.

    The other metal shaping tool you'll need to get started is a shrinker/stretcher. I'd suggest a "Lancaster" style because they do a good job and are inexpensive. https://www.tinmantech.com/html/lanc..._stretcher.php I'd also recommend the stipple finished jaws for aluminum but the standard ones are OK too. You can find less expensive sources for a Lancaster shrinker but TM Tech is my go to place for metal shaping tools. These only shrink on the edges but you'll find the majority of shrinking you'll do is on the edge.

    I wish you the best on metal shaping!

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  • 275NART
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    Originally posted by Don View Post
    A quick question.

    Why is the trans mount crooked? Does the trans mount on the Jag engine really have an angle to it? Obviously the engine and trans are lined up and straight so I guess the Mustang mount isn't quite the same shape as the oem mount so it put it on an angle?

    Regardless. It is in and beautifully fabricated. Was just curious.....

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    Don
    Don,

    The engine and trans are not canted over at all- look at the position of the bellhousing and bellhousing drain hole and how the trans bolts up to it. For whatever reason the crossmember bracket that's cast on the v6 mustang transmission is tilted a considerable amount. It's quite apparent here:

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  • Don
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    A quick question.

    Why is the trans mount crooked? Does the trans mount on the Jag engine really have an angle to it? Obviously the engine and trans are lined up and straight so I guess the Mustang mount isn't quite the same shape as the oem mount so it put it on an angle?

    Regardless. It is in and beautifully fabricated. Was just curious.....

    Cheers
    Don

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  • TRcrazy
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    Good to see more metalshapers here. -Vinny

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  • 275NART
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    New toy. For $300 w/ the anvils what's there to really lose.

    New toy. For $300 w/ the anvils what's there to really lose.

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  • 275NART
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    Trans mount is done. First I had to make some little brackets with captive nuts





    I welded those to the inside of the main frame rails





    Cut up the factory mustang trans mount I bought and bolted it into place






    boxing in those gaps







    A lick of paint and it's good enough for now.



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  • 275NART
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    Not a whole lot to report here but the pedal box is tacked back into place. I moved it over about 3.5" from the factory location.








    I ordered a few more materials so I can fab the trans mount shortly.

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  • 275NART
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    Thank you for the encouragement Eddy! I have drooled over your TR and countach replica for some time. Believe it or not I think my aluminum welds look nicer than steel! Don't know why since aluminum is generally more difficult for most people.

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  • Fast Eddy
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    Wow 275! I'm away from the forum for a spell and suddenly a NART Spyder appears before my eyes from no where ha ha!!! You are modest about your welding skills, but my goodness are those super nice welds! My brother is a welder and let me have a go at repairing my Countach aluminum wheel insert with his Tig, and I failed to get the hang of it, gave up and let him do it! I'll have to try again. It's great to see you moving along so well. Cheers! Eddy
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    Last edited by Fast Eddy; 07-08-2017, 02:14 PM.

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  • 275NART
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    Originally posted by IKAROS View Post
    275NART...There is still time to make a small change & buy this engine....Come on...It's not THAT expensive!

    Wow. Some serious technology in that lump!

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  • 275NART
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    Originally posted by C5GTO View Post
    Always a great feeling when the engine is sitting in place! It looks like you're using even less of that P1800 the further you go. Oh well, it provided a good starting place and it certainly looks like you have the skills to build the rest of the car around it
    Haha yeah that's kind of my thinking at this point. I could have started from scratch but hey it saved a good bit of time and money at least. I've also been reading and watching metal shaping videos. I think I will get a cheap-o wheel to do the trans tunnel and see if I can get the hang of it, then maybe get a nice rig if it works out favorably.

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  • IKAROS
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    275NART...There is still time to make a small change & buy this engine....Come on...It's not THAT expensive!

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  • C5GTO
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    Always a great feeling when the engine is sitting in place! It looks like you're using even less of that P1800 the further you go. Oh well, it provided a good starting place and it certainly looks like you have the skills to build the rest of the car around it

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  • 275NART
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    tacked into place








    set into place with only 4 small tacks per mount. Well that's reassurance that I can burn in strong welds! I need to fill my argon tank before I can finish the welds.

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