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  • Originally posted by Bloozberry View Post
    Looking good Don! I couldn't help but notice the timing of your balance problems... I'm willing to bet that you're in good company all across the World today. LOL. (BTW... it was great meeting you a couple weeks ago.)
    Hey Dave Thanks. It was great meeting you as well. You are doing some amazing work to help bring those old 355 panels back to some useful life. Anyone wanting to spend some quality time seeing how a well documented project with incredible engineering going on is done go here. Grab a beer and start reading. Worth the time spent in my opinion.

    https://bloozeown.weebly.com/

    I wish the balance problems were actually festivities related..... This vertigo is a son of a gun to work through.

    More progress when I can stand straight...

    Cheers
    Don
    308 Ferrari replica
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    • Do you still have the Cheviot rims that came with this car?

      Hi Don...Do you still have the original Cheviot rims that came with your Mera clone - and if so, are they for sale?

      Thanks

      Originally posted by Don View Post
      Thought I would resurrect this old thread as it seems I have had a bit of good luck. I am about to acquire a 308 kit out here in Vancouver that I can drive for now but can use as my base for the 288 GTO project.

      The car is a runner and had a lot of work done to the engine etc. and looks like it was a good kit when first built back in the 90's. It is a Mera clone so not the full true lines of the Stinger but a closer starting point than my 328 panels I have had for several years. It is the one I posted over in the Mall a month or so ago. The fellow had no action on the car so I offered him what I would pay for it myself being that I have seen it etc. and he took the offer. I have to go over to Vancouver in the next couple weeks to pick it up and bring it back but it will be a decent project to play with for a while.

      a couple pics of the car.

      Cheers
      Don
      THE BEST QUOTE EVER ON THE REAL VS. REPLICA DEBATE, IMO - "...telling guys on here that fake means worthless, is like arguing with guys about fake boobs. If you can see them, touch them, enjoy them and be proud of them; for most....they're real enough." - RUSHAVED

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grxthHiMkec&t=9s
      --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orPNGTi58rY

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      • Paul;

        I still have the rims and will be using them on this. I just don't have them on right now as I work on the driveline and finish up small items on the front end as well. They are very hard to come by these days.

        Good luck
        Don
        308 Ferrari replica
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        • Originally posted by Don View Post
          Paul;

          I still have the rims and will be using them on this. I just don't have them on right now as I work on the driveline and finish up small items on the front end as well. They are very hard to come by these days.

          Good luck
          Don
          I understand...They really do suit the 308/328 cars well aesthetically and are good quality rims.
          Unfortunately they're no longer available...I know this because I was told I got the last set nearly 25 years ago.
          Now our biggest challenge will be finding adequately sized 15 inch diameter performance tires for them.

          Cheers.
          Last edited by Paul S; 01-10-2019, 09:45 PM.
          THE BEST QUOTE EVER ON THE REAL VS. REPLICA DEBATE, IMO - "...telling guys on here that fake means worthless, is like arguing with guys about fake boobs. If you can see them, touch them, enjoy them and be proud of them; for most....they're real enough." - RUSHAVED

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grxthHiMkec&t=9s
          --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orPNGTi58rY

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          • Well, since I have been unable to handle power tools the past couple weeks, and stuck in the house most of the time with this vertigo, I have been sitting in front of the computer coming up with all kinds of stuff to do when I am better.

            One item I wanted to get to this past week was the through firewall plug for my new wiring setup. The oem Fiero plug is quite large and sticks out into the engine bay too far to be able to fit under my new wiring track top. So, I got into Fusion 360 (free 3d CAD from AutoCAD including motion simulation and sheet metal etc.) and finished up my prototype of a plug with a waterfall so the wires transition the corner from the firewall into the cockpit a more cleanly. I am currently 3d printing my first finished full prototype out (two pieces) so one I can show and can take a pic of the in progress of the second piece. It is much more complicated than the first as there has to be a boat load of supporting structures built up to support the top area. there was no easy way to print it so I just printed it right side up but it requires a huge amount of additional plastic for the support structure. Don't think I will do it that way again.... lessons learned as I get into the 3d printing stuff

            So, requirements for a new firewall plug:
            1. Must be no more than about 5/8" high on engine bay side so it fits under the wiring tray top
            2. Must be wide enough to allow all wires to turn the corner into the cockpit
            3. Must have a smooth transition around the corner (waterfall type of corner)
            4. Must be able to be assembled when one half is in the firewall already
            5. Not crazy complicated


            I don't think I succeeded in the "Not crazy complicated" part but everything else I think I nailed.

            A few pics. One piece done and another in progress. Another quality 2 hours to go on part 2.

            Full part when both pieces are mated. Will be held in place by screws in top and bottom tabs and the firewall opening will exert pressure to keep them mated


            Part 1 which goes into the firewall hole first and get the wires all lined up and then insert part 2. At least that is the plan. I might have just realized an error as I am typing but will see how it turns out. Why you make prototypes first....


            Part 2 inside view. Top part of the cascade waterfall ramp for the wires.


            Part 2 view 2. Back side of the part. I just realized that I may have put the large retainer tab on the wrong part. It is this way on the originals but the piece is already assembled before inserting into the firewall as you have more length of wire to work with. My arrangement is tighter so might not work. I am not sure I will be able to fit the second part down through the hole and still keep the wires tight in the waterfall. Will need to test that out....


            Finished Part 1 of the prototype. 3d printing at the hobby level like my printer does not give you show room finish. A bit of cleanup is required.


            A few more pictures of Part 1




            Comparison to oem part I took measurements from


            More in next post as I think I am going to run out to pictures allowed if I haven't already.
            Last edited by Don; 01-15-2019, 12:46 AM.
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            • Part 2 in progress.

              There is a part in the middle of all that enormous amount of plastic support scaffolding so when it gets to the top to print the top lip, it has something to print against. Quite a waste of plastic.... More pics later tonight when Part 2 is complete.

              Cheers



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              • And ready for testing.

                What a waste of plastic the way I printed. I think I doubled the amount of plastic used the way it was set to print. Not sure how it would be less in another way though. Make the part out to three pieces maybe for not nearly the overhang in mid air that needs supporting. I have to make another one as a minimum if this one works or possibly more if it doesn't so I have an opportunity to try other ways....







                Trimmed up and ready to test fit


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                • Very cool, Don. 3D printing can definitely take our hobby to new places and I'd expect you to continue raising the bar.

                  Bob
                  Bob custom '84 Fiero SE --->>> custom F408
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                  • Wow... that looks great Don. And it's another great idea.

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                    • Bob;

                      Yes, I have several ideas of additional parts I want to make for the interior that would be covered by carbon fibre etc. A great tool to try things out and to custom build a part I can't get elsewhere.

                      Took the opportunity to trial fit the plug in one of the wring firewall holes late last night. A couple items need updating. The curved top waterfall piece broke so needs to be reinforced. I also fond it very difficult to fit with that piece connected to the second part. I think this piece will be taken off the the second part and made as an attachment piece that goes on last.

                      I also need to make the mounting tabs bigger and I think I will need to put the Part 1 and 2 together on the wires before putting into the firewall. Was just too hard to fit together while in the firewall hole. Thanks goodness this will be a very seldom needed procedure...... Once it is in, I won't need to pull the wiring off when pulling driveline the way it is setup.

                      Pics of the fitting tonight.

                      Cheers
                      Don
                      308 Ferrari replica
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                      • Looks like the prototype worked out pretty well. A few updates and improvements to make but a good first trial The final product will be easier to install and have better locking together capabilities. Need to go get some black plastic filament now to fit with the black engine bay theme.....

                        A few pics of install and final fitment












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                        • Looks good Don!!
                          -Glenn

                          "One day I had a bit of an argument with my friend Enzo Ferrari, who reckoned I wasnít able to drive a Ferrari, only tractors. Thatís when I got the idea into my head and told myself Ė Iíll make the cars myself from now on!" - Ferruccio Lamborghini

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                          • Thanks Glenn;
                            Need some update pics of your build up here as well.

                            I made the effort to get in the garage the other night and got the drive train back into the car for some final fitment items and plumbing. Everything is looking good and I think it will all be fitting well. A few adjustments will be needed but looking good.

                            I did also find out that I am not quite ready to be full speed in the garage, I was moving my head all over and ended up pretty messed up with the remnants of the vertigo. Slow and steady but that just takes more time....

                            Will be adding plumbing tonight hopefully.

                            Cheers
                            Don
                            308 Ferrari replica
                            Prova Countach 5000S

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                            • Getting crowded in the engine bay.....

                              Putting all the plumbing in place and all other equipment to be used so I can see where to run my last two plumbing items, the heater pipes. On the Fiero, one pipe goes to the rear firewall and then along the wall and around the front of the engine but I was thinking originally of being able to route both to the back of the engine and pipe to the front firewall. Given there is a new main plumbing pipe and fuel lines now and the fact that the 3.4 DOHC is just that much bigger in the engine bay, I might end up having to run the oem route after all. Too bad I cut up the long run pipe to use for the proposed short runs....

                              More to come.
                              Don





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                              • Looks right at home, Don. Great job.

                                Bob
                                Bob custom '84 Fiero SE --->>> custom F408
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