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    Am I looking for the fwd version only or will the 4wd version work as well?
    Ive been doing some reading online and it seems there are many mixed opinions. Some say its good for 450-500hp some say its a weak paper weight and to forget about it and look into the porsche transaxles.

    Looking to put down 300-450 max so hoping it will hold but anyone putting down 500+ through it??

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    Re: audi 5000 transaxle

    You are looking for the FWD version, that much I know. As for how much torque it can handle, is more of a subjective question. Reading the forums will only get you peoples guesses. The only true measurement of torque comes from the manufacturer. Can a transmission designed to handle a 200 ft/lbs of torque handle 400 ft/lbs? I do not know. There are people out there that are doing this, but you are going to have to respect the transmission and shift it well. For me the question is would I want to spend $300-400 on a Audi unit that should work, or $7000 on a Porsche unit that will work. With that logic, my money would be spent on the Audi.

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    • #3
      Re: audi 5000 transaxle

      Its a matter of driving style. If you are going to be gentle to the trans then it would be just fine, but if you are going to put 335 and show off how big your lead foot is. GO the the Porsche trans
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      • #4
        Re: audi 5000 transaxle

        Think about what your saying, you wanna trans that will handle 500+ hp, but you only wanna pay $400 for it! That makes no sense at all! With 500 hp you will break the audi, over and over and over and over and...you get the idea. If your budget is tight, consider less power and the audi.

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        • #5
          Re: audi 5000 transaxle

          I've got a 5 spd renault transaxle that would work. Some have used it in GT-40 replicas so probably comparable to the audi. pm if interested.
          Even the longest journey begins with the first step.

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          • #6
            Re: audi 5000 transaxle

            If you go with the Audi you will need to reinforce the cast iron case first.
            After you reinforce you can NOT get rubber by popping the clutch. You will break the spider gears next.
            If you do clean launches, no burnout attempts and smooth shifts it can handle the power.
            If your foot slips off the clutch once, it's broken.

            http://stweb.peelschools.org/sssweb/...tep/index.html

            Jim
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            • #7
              Re: audi 5000 transaxle

              hi Jim.. its seems like its been ages since you`ve posted!! How is your build going?? Thanks for the info, I was actually on youtube watching your shifter linkage video on it yesterday.

              Also where abouts did you get your 016 from? checked kijiji around toronto and looks like most are auto or awd.. no manual fwds.. I`m not really in a rush but figured I`d start looking sooner rather then later.

              Cheers

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              • #8
                Re: audi 5000 transaxle

                the 016 or AAZ are almost imposible to find, they have them in Germany for around E350, but shipping could be problem.

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                • #9
                  Re: audi 5000 transaxle

                  Jim has also pioneered putting 944 Turbo spider gears into the Audi to take care of the gear problem.

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                  • #10
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                    They (016's) are very rare right now.
                    I checked out a 5 speed from a Boxster and it looks perfect for the build. It is slightly shorter and the correct orientation. 6 speed is also available.
                    I would do this next time in a heartbeat.
                    They seem to be around $1500.00 at most salvage yards.
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                    • #11
                      Re: audi 5000 transaxle

                      Originally posted by jdinner
                      They (016's) are very rare right now.
                      I checked out a 5 speed from a Boxster and it looks perfect for the build. It is slightly shorter and the correct orientation. 6 speed is also available.
                      I would do this next time in a heartbeat.
                      They seem to be around $1500.00 at most salvage yards.
                      Does anyone make any adapters? Chev or Ford small blocks?

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                      • #12
                        Re: audi 5000 transaxle

                        yea something like kennedy engineering think they have adapters for the audi and porsche for pretty well every engine

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                        • #13
                          Talking about the audi 5000 transaxle the porsche is the same with better gearing.I have almost completed an adapter to go From an LS engine to the 944. This is a complete bolt in operation stock Ls flywheel,starter and a 10.5" clutch good for 500hp.The adapter includes bell housing, throw out collar,special pilot bearing.Thank you for your interest.Gary

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                          • #14
                            The Porsche 5 speed boxster and the VW Passat 5 speed are the same gear box. Attached pictures below. First is from a Passat second is from a Boxster. The gear ratios are different. A DVZ or DHY from a Passat trans appears to have the best ratios for a large engine (final drive 3.70, first 3.50, second 1.944, third 1.30, fourth .943, fifth .789). Compared to a 2.7L boxster, which appears to have the best gear ratios (final drive 3.55, first 3.50, second 2.117, third 1.428, fourth 1.090, fifth .837).

                            I bought three Passat gearboxes for $300. I'm adapting one to a BMW 5.0 V12 and plan on treating it with respect, but not expecting great success, so that's why I bought two additional back up transmissions.
                            Attached Files
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                            Last edited by falzonmotorsports; 04-03-2016, 10:11 AM.

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                            • #15
                              The five speed Boxster is rather fragile. I do some work for a mechanic at the local Porsche dealer who races a Boxster and he says they break the gears in the 5 speeds all the time with the stock engines. He keeps a couple of spare transmissions under his bench. The 6-speed is much stronger and is the one I would recommend. They also shift better. I make adapters for both the Audi and Porsche transmissions to fit V8s and BMW V12 engines.

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