F355????

[jack999 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jack999]

Just like to apologise ahead of time for the long post.

How can you get the nice ferrari engine sound? If I were to biuld a ferrari replica I want the famous ferrari sound. I dont have 100's of thousands to spend on a real ferrari engine or i would just go out and buy a real ferrari. Keeping this in mind, is there any engines out there that can be modded to sound like a ferrari one? Oviously the oem exhaust will help, but only a bit. The only thing holding me back from starting this project is the engine. What is it that makes the sound in the ferrari engines that other car engines dont have? Another question i have is for the older ferrari's, i have seen some for 19 000. Do the engine's back then sound the same as they do today? What i'm getting at is could I get one of those old 1982 ferrari engines and put the 355 oem exhaust on and will i get the sound I desire? How reliable would thses engines be? Aswell 19 000 is still a bit steep for me. Are there any other solutions for me? As i said this is the only thing holding me back and i would really like to resolve this problem and get going! ;D Thank you for help.
Sorry again for long post.

[Modena Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Modena]

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Use a DOHC 3.4 and a Tubi, that should get you close.

[sactodreamer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sactodreamer]

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The 3.4L DOHC V-6 will give you one of the most authentic sounds.  Mainly because they rev high, that's what makes it sound like a Ferrari.  The real 355 redlines @ 8500 RPM.  The 3.4L DOHC V-6 is the highest revving motor GM makes @ 7500 RPM.  So your not really going to get an exact sound but it's the closest affordable engine for a replica. 

Or if your really up for a challeng.......mount two sportbike engines lenghtwise......you could get high revs that way. : ;D

[superstang460 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close superstang460]

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Or if your really up for a challeng.......mount two sportbike engines lenghtwise......you could get high revs that way. : ;D

My kawasaki ninja redlines at 14,750rpm but I have taken it to 16,500. If I put two of them next to each other I could have the most wicked sounding V8, even if it would only be a 1.2L.

[jack999 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jack999]

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could that really be done? put two sport bike engine's together? how would u bolt on the trans? would you need to modify the clutch? could you put a oem 355 exhaust on it? This sounds like a sweet idea and i am up for the chalenge, but i would like to get some of the Q's worked out before i go ahead with it.

[MadMechanic Active Users Find all posts View Profile Close MadMechanic]

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I don't know how much two sport bike engines would help you much when your car ways 3000+ lbs...

[sactodreamer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sactodreamer]

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LOL! Anything can be done with enough $$$ But like ARI said torque would/could be an issue. But, imagine the sound of two engines @ 14,500 RPM (29,000 RPMs!!!! WOOO HOOO!!) ;D

[jack999 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jack999]

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ah yes your right torque will probably be a big issuse considering even the most powerful sport bike engines are only powering 300lbs bikes. a 3000+ car could be a slight problem. Anyone with a good solution?

[FunnyWheels Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FunnyWheels]

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The Ferrari sound is from the 180 degree crankshaft in the engine.  Most V6 and V8's use the 90 degree and will not produce the sound you desire. It is very expensive to change a V8 to the crankshaft firing order you desire and more than likely you will not choose that route.

Dave

[superstang460 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close superstang460]

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Dave is absolutely right. The crank and firing order on 99.9% of all vehicles out there is setup on 90 degree opposition to the next firing piston. Select Ferraris, some sport bikes, and Fomula 1 racers have this 180 spread which gives it that, oh so, desired sound.

I'm not even sure that a standard 90 degree V8 could be altered in such a manor. The cam grind, crank, and distrubutor timing would all have to be totally re-engineered. Not to mention the mundane details like oil pump and water jackets in the block.

[jack999 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jack999]

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Would i be able to get a formula 1 racecar engine and put it in? Since the sportbike option is out of the question How much would one of those bad boys run me? would it even be possible?

[superstang460 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close superstang460]

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I have heard that some fomula 1 teams have $100,000 invested in there motors. Not to mention they require a complete rebuild every 500 miles and are not geared for streetable aplication at all. Good luck passing any smog tests. It wouldn't even come close in the most liberal state's smog approval tests. Try and keep your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds. A longitudinally mounted small block chevy is a big enough task to fit into a 3" stretched chassis.

[Orion Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Orion]

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not true about that other thing someone said about the highest revving gm engine. You can buy special blocks built to withstand much higher rpms, with the proper heads, cams cranks etc. Im pretty sure the one i saw was official gm, and it was built specifically to reach 8500 rpm, it was a short block 8. this option would not be too expensive, and even if you could not get 180 degrees, i know people that have 165 degree cams in theirs, and to build the complete block would probably run a little under 10 grand.

[sactodreamer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sactodreamer]

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LOL, let me re-state that then, it's the highest revving motor GM put into a production car and is affordable for replicas.   BETTER??  Just under $10K for the motor isn't practical for most replica builders.........of course this is my opinion about affordable.  ;D

[FunnyWheels Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FunnyWheels]

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I agree with the cost issues. A trpical kit car guy will complain about spending $20 for a part that in most cases would cost $150. Go figure, the engine is a pipe dream for these people, myself included.

Dave